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    Thursday, September 28, 2006

    Sic Transit Habeas Corpus

    An excellent blog posting over HERE regarding the horrible bill the Senate is about to pass (the House version already passed) going over all the things wrong with the bill.  And lots of stuff at Sullivan.
     
    Congress suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War at President Lincoln's request AFTER he had already violated the constitution in the Merriman case and kept a rebel leader incarcerated for months without charges or a trial.  But I would give Lincoln a pass as we were in the middle of a rebellion.
     
    The so-called "War on Terror" may be lots of things, but it is no Civil War.  There is no open rebellion on our soil.  
     
    This bill has so many problems and I won't list them all here, especially when others have listed them so well.  But in short, we should fear a law that would grant the president sole discretion to determine who is an unlawful enemy combatant (meaning anyone engaged in undefined hostilities against the United States who is not a "lawful enemy combatant") and allows the president to detain such persons indefinitely without charges and without a trial.  That is so overbroad that to call it overbroad seems understated.
     
    If the United States stands for imprisoning people indefinitely without charging them with a crime, and torturing them using techniques perfected by Stalin, then I ask: who won the Cold War?  Free societies don't do this, not to our own, and not to others.
     

    Comments on "Sic Transit Habeas Corpus"

     

    Blogger anne said ... (3:35 PM, September 28, 2006) : 

    VOTE!! The only way to make change in our government is to vote out the politicians who are passing these bills. Get them out of office! Vote Strickland/Fisher, and Sherrod Brown.

     

    Blogger Mr. Bebout said ... (3:36 PM, September 28, 2006) : 

    Did you check out Keith Oberman's 10.5 minute editorial about Bush and Fox news. It was great.

     

    Blogger Audient said ... (4:31 PM, September 28, 2006) : 

    I called DeWine's DC office and told them he had better not vote for it and the reasons why. I mentioned that I voted for him 6 years ago, which I did, and that I'd be watching this vote before I vote on Nov 7.

    Hats of to Rep. Steve LaTourette (R-Madison) for being one of the seven Republican members of the House to vote NO.

     

    Blogger Gina Ventre said ... (4:36 PM, September 28, 2006) : 

    Must. Change. Voter. Registration. Address.

    The most frightening part of the legislation is its' vague language.

    In what way exactly are we beacons of democracy when the govt. is trying to enact legislation that eats away at the very principles of democracy?

     

    Blogger Brian Kornell said ... (4:43 PM, September 28, 2006) : 

    Makes you wonder how much the American People will take from this administration before they moved to act.

     

    Anonymous Anonymous said ... (7:14 AM, September 29, 2006) : 

    it passed bouth houses

    how could such an agregious attack on the ideals the Fathers had for this country be allowed

     

    Blogger Audient said ... (7:44 AM, September 29, 2006) : 

    Roll Call Vote.

     

    Blogger Gina Ventre said ... (8:38 AM, September 29, 2006) : 

    DeWine (R-OH), Yea

    Voinovich (R-OH), Yea

    McCain (R-AZ), Yea - wtf? This last one has me baffled. C'mon.

     

    Blogger Audient said ... (11:34 AM, September 29, 2006) : 

    And by the way, while LaTourette of Madison voted NO one the house version, do you know what local house Democrat voted YES? Sherrod Brown. Asshole. WTF indeed.

     

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